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Border Patrol agents finally breached the door about 40 minutes to an hour later when a staff member gave them a key. I have to confess to a certain amusement at the personages you drag out to lend credence to your theories of the moment. Kay told him that Manson and Watson had been to the Cielo house when Terry Melcher and Candace Bergen were there. The following book about the Nazis, published in 1961 shows this fact on page 1 where the title and name of Reeve Whitson appears. But I've got my eye on you. The LAPD wanted to tie the murders to drug dealers who might have had a motive for murdering Frykowski. Lol who knows and also I stand corrected it was a VW microbus Manson traded it for, Regarding Moorehouse living at Cielo I never thought there was anything to it then I was listening to a recorded interview with Tom O'Neill who wrote the Chaos book, he said Altobelli told him that Melcher did let Moorehouse live at Cielo off and on during the summer of 1968, apparently this was one of the things O Neill asked Bugliosi in one of their many interviews for the book, O Neill said he started finding so many inconsistencies between that Bugs said publicly and what Melcher told him privately that Vince got so paranoid that he started threatening Tom about putting the things he heard from Melcher in the book. In spite of his disclaimer to Rosenfelt, I think he was part of the plot to kill them and subsequently got involved in the subsequent cover-up of the role of the CIA and military intelligence in the murders. Versions of how the flag got there:Coroner, Thomas T. Noguchi and Joseph DiMonapg132the large American flag draped over the couch. Sometimes, it's actually worth following theories to a logical conclusion. That clears things up. There are a number of people mentioned, for example in that first Tate police report, many of whom were involved in the investigation whom we never hear of again. BUGLIOSI:I guess you could say thatQ:In connection with your duties thereto and therewith, did you have occasion to interview the preceding witness in your office in the month of April, 1970?A:Yes. If LE and the CIA were so powerful, why didn't they just pin it on the innocent ? Thabk you, Bunkhouse, Does anyone have any additional info on Reeve Whitson? While I'm impressed by the civility here, it surprises me that so many people are dismissive of Reeve Wilson's role. Reeve Whitson? Whether he still worked for the CIA, who knows. "I don't know. It seems that every time someone new "writes a book" they come up with all kinds of things that have never been thought of. My book, CHAOS: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties, covers a lot of ground, police and prosecutor corruption, secret and mostly illegal government counterintelligence operations against American citizens (like the CIA's MKUltra and CHAOS, and the FBI's COINTELPRO), and, yes, the Manson Family murders of 1969. He is mentioned several times in the papers and documents of Robert B. Anderson, who was Eisenhower's Deputy Secretary of Defense and then his Treasury Secretary. So that got my train of thought going and I looked into it. He's scared to die now that he's in he's eighties, so I don't see him killing himself. This program was headed by Gerald Shur of the DOJ. From RFK Jr's instagram post on Wednesday's death of Thane Eugene Cesar, prime suspect in his dad's 1968 murder:The LAPD unit (SUS) that investigated my dads assassination was run by active CIA operatives. The Reeve Whitson character is intriguing, and I just don't know what to make of Sharon Tate's father. Folger was a former intelligence officer during WWII and maintained those contacts long after the war. Sorry but I just dont believe he was in that house before Winifred and the cops got there, it would have been front page news at the time, and if you're saying Whitson knew the murders were taking place and did nothing to stop them then he'd have been suspect #1, Couple more things after reading your post, why of all people would Whitson call Hatami about the murders first? It's all bullcrap, I may not be a believer in Helter Skelter being the motive but some of these conspiracy theories are beyond ridiculous, Reeve knew where all the bodies were buried, and who was involved. ONeill got an unpublished manuscript called Five Down at Cielo Drive written by three authors, Lt. Helder, Paul Tate, and an FBI man named Roger LeJeunnesse. One should remember, it was dark, most of them were unfamiliar with where they were and they weren't exactly studying the scene. The trial transcript is on Cielodrive.com. I had high hopes when I read that O'Neil had spent twenty years researching the Manson murders, but the book reads like a confession of failure. I've never heard of this Reeve guy in my life, and I've been studying this case for years. It's a natural conclusion to draw the he was probably watching Cielo for Folger and became friends with the group for that reason. In a Rolling Stone article, Paul Krassner wrote, "I had hoped to get confirmation of the heaviest lead in my research. saidI think it's fair to say that a career criminal with high recidivism like Manson would have had stringent parole conditionsNot if you take into account 2 things > a] the things Manson had actually gone to jail for in the 50s and b] It was the authorities that paroled him. He told and then showed where a lot of missing women were. However, I am not disputing O'Neill's sources. He was a close friend of Sebring, Tate and Polanski. Ruth Wilson recently opened up more about why she left The Affair and claimed that she didn't feel safe on set. 2) in the early 1960s, Reeve Whitson was a Business Manager for a publishing /photography company in Paris that gave him a proper cover for his intelligence operations in Europe . Reeve John Whitson 1924 1994 Indiana California Reeve John Whitson, 1924 - 1994. hbbd```b`` WA$#. 'We were introduced to Art Linklater, and we were also given tickets for a show by Reeve, where, during the interval, we met Andrew Lloyd Webber and Sarah Brightman backstage in their dressing room,' Alistair told me. I do not believe we will ever know the truth. The one thing the alternatives have in common, if you bring them to a logical conclusion is.Charlie isn't ultimately responsible ! How did O'Neill get the transcript to the book, I heard Debra had it? So he proved his willingness to collude with the Feds. L`L,3`v]fUn,^/ {N n^{a "2d`5`,/ f30ul#9@ o+ Have a nice evening!!! Melcher told me he had no memory of it. endstream endobj 78 0 obj <>/Metadata 16 0 R/Outlines 28 0 R/PageLabels 73 0 R/Pages 75 0 R/StructTreeRoot 29 0 R/Type/Catalog/ViewerPreferences<>>> endobj 79 0 obj <. I'm pretty sure the last time Doris was in the house was for the watching of the moon landing but I do remember her saying it was there though I highly doubt it was upside down like the pics from Aug 9 show, I can't imagine that would be too cool with Col Paul lol, Just as a general statement regarding the killers you have to take into account that BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION they took HUNDREDS of trips on hallucinogenic drugs in addition to smoking marijuana daily, these people are bound to forget various things that most look at as things that are mere footnotes such as what piece of furniture was where, who said what first, where the flag was, what time it was, etc, etc. They do a lot of illegal, ugly things against man's law, and against God's law. But your opinion isn't the one that counted circa '67~'69. And Reeves Witson, a friend of Mr. Hatami, and Mr. Hatami, appeared in my office.Q:Do you recall the date?A:NoQ:Do you recall the time of day?A:I think it was around noon if I'm not mistakenand finally:KANAREK:All right, now, did you cause Mr, Hatami's conversation with you to be recorded?BUGLIOSI:NoQ:Did you cause a stenographic reporter to come in and take down any notes concerning your conversation with Mr. Hatami? The purpose behind the plot was to incite terror among white people and put the blame on black radicals. Good to see you back, Grim!Now that your posting again, maybe you can put up Hatamis testimony on Whitson. "Not every detail in "Helter Skelter" is correct. Knowing that his son was going to 10050 Cielo Drive the night before and because of reports that one of the bodies was unidentified (Steve Parent), his worried father called the police. Family, friend, or fan, this family history biography is for you to remember Reeve Whitson. He was probably there for the bike delivery, the hippie van delivery and at El Coyote dining. I'd be willing to buy it if you ever put just a amateurish copy of it together, at 1200 pgs it sounds like you've got alot of content in it, what would make it EXTRA special is if it was indexed, so often I've found myself looking for info on a specific person, date, place, incident, quote, etc and then having to Wade through a million google entries that go nowhere and in the case of some of the minutia of the case not being able to find anything at all on it, Also by "amateurish" I don't mean the content of it but the presentation, I'm not looking for anything put together by a professional publishing company or anything. I found Whitson to be the most interesting of the characters that O'Neill presented. Well, the obvious question to me would be "why would he be talking about a race war to a complete stranger in January of 1969 ?" My opinion was Charles Manson was not very good at all.So, does my Twitter inter-action with George Christie mean nothing to you? That's one of the reasons that there is so much wrong info out there on this subject and why so many ridiculous theories abound and so much importance is placed on anything that appears to be new and vital.So, with all that in mind, just where would information pertaining to Dean Moorehouse molesting his daughters have come from ? Yeah, look I can see Whitson as a very bit player in the whole saga but as some Matt Damon Bourne Supremacy operative, not while the grass is green and the sky is blue. And, if you look at the police reports, there are those who claim to have heard male voices outside hours after Watson, et al. They destroyed thousands of pieces of evidence, RFK Jr. stated.And these are the people we entrusted to get to the bottom of the TLB case. This whole ONeill book thing is a collection of tin hat conspiracy bullshitThat, Dave, is being pretty generous.It sounds like Shreck writ large but without the 900+ pages. It came out in the Watson trial and it was Bugliosi that brought it out. His daughter is a Bluebird survivor and her memories are returning in fractured pieces. The CIA are not nice guys. That is assuming I outlive him. Along with Zamora's book {of whom he is highly critical} and John Baer's wife's book, it is gold dust for seeing the jury's perspective. So I think, like Mon says, the flag was there and Krenwinkel either didn't notice it or was was lying. Some people have a fairly good memory recall; of the death troupe, Susan & Linda seemed to. Ridgeway was an asshole, there was a great part during his trial where one of his victims father's stands up in open court and forgives him and Gary breaks down weeping uncontrollably, it's heartbreaking on both sides, Beauders in an interesting twist to the Ridgeway/Green River case detectives Dave Riechert and Bob Keppel went to Florida to interview Ted Bundy since alot of his victims were in the same area and killed in similar ways, this was fairly early in the case in 1984 and one of the first things Bundy recommended was staking out a fresh dump site and watch it for a few days and that Ridgeway would be back to interact with the corpse which was one of the hallmarks of Bundy's crimes and was also exactly what Ridgeway was doing. This is the third time. The last is the clincher. Rick Dalton got Susan with the flamethrower and Cliff Booth smashed Krenwinkels face into the phone, fireplace mantle, glass picture on the wall and the coffee table so it's all good. Neutralizing the Left The Lawyer Swap Manson's Get-Out-of-Jail-Free Card The Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic Mind Control Where Does It All Go? Sharon Tate's father was military intelligence and headed an off-the-grid task force of sorts aimed at finding out more about his daughter's murder. Who. Would he be sent back to jail for speeding ? I am in Chapter 6, when Reeve Whitson is just being introduced as the cryptic CIA agent "He used his thumbnail to tear the top-right-hand corner of every piece of paper he handled, to mark it. (For his part, in an interview with Mr.Hatami while researching this book, Hatami told me he has no memory at all of Manson coming to the front door of Cielo Drive, but that the memory was suggested to him by an investigator named Reeve Whitson, who worked for both Col.Paul Tate and the prosecutor Vince Bugliosi. He didn't even see him during the trial.Reeve Whitson could of course be the spook extraordinaire.but once again, what ends up happening is that theories abound because there are many people that just refuse to accept the verdict as it came down and go looking to find reasons why it must have happened. Mon didn't Moorehouse start out as a "preacher" and when he met up with Charlie regarding Ruth Ann he was so "enamoured" by him that he willingly GAVE his same daughter to that leacherous 30-something year old ex-con, supposedly to join up with his "sex cult" in order to partake in the drugs and sex that the "cult" offered?So, in other words, he offered his own daughter as some kind of "present" to Charlie so that he could partake in the tawdry dealings of the "cult". William Weston said Hatami mentioned the name Reeve Whitson four times in his testimony at the Manson trialNo he did not. I also suspect John Lennon's murder is simply another example of a CHAOS/COINTELPRO operation, to discredit the Beatles and demean opposition to the Vietnam War (as far fetched as it sounds). My book is easy to read that's the way I intended it to be and that's why I don't want anyone cutting it up. Anyone that engages with me should by now know that at the very least, notwithstanding my style and sense of humour {or lack thereof !} He had a reason to believe something weird was about to happen at the [Tate] house. In order for me to know "better" you need to stop speaking in riddles and like Nehemiah, say it straight and say it straight where you're blogging ! It should have been MPK 308. Has anyone ever heard of it?Yes, excerps were in the book by Alyssa Statman and Bree Tate. Virtually all of the info I've dug up about Whitson parallels what my friend remembers with the exception of Whitson's family ties. Or better yet, he's like "The Flash". About the same time, the dogkeeper William Garretson, arrived back at the guest house, transported by hippies in a van who gave him a ride from Sunset Boulevard. "That was Sharon. But you can get some meaty details right here. And has anybody seen Bugliosi's OJ Special ("OJ Simpson: 100% Guilty")? Well (1) the flag was there and (2) I don't know why that's a point of conjecture and (3) I've still never heard of Reeve Whitson. Delivering arms, drugs, people, children were his usual business. Either way it's impressive. I wouldn't base any findings on what she says. According to Bugliosi, p. 85, the time was between 7:30 and 8:00. He was a big talker and might have been a bit of Colonel Flagg type, but there is no doubt he had a lot of connections.How Whitson got so close to Bugliosi is strange and helped put pressure on Hatami. Did he betray his friends? Oh Mario I wasn't even talking about you! Why would a person working in a top-secret division of the CIA give his real name and identity out to almost everyone? When I learn of Bittaker's death 'I am going to party like it's 1999." Study the case properly, arm yourself with information that is there and you will see why he was not sent back to prison. That dude killed 50+ women and bargained for his life. 3) The intersection of military intelligence, Hollywood and the mob runs directly into the Linkletter family, who were involved in a myriad of legitimate and no so much legit businesses. But again, nobody saw him. According to the manuscript, Helder told Whitson to cozy up to anyone who knew Frykowskis suppliers, especially those in Mama Casss circleDoesn't this contradict your belief though ? There was no reason to send him back.until there was.Anybody on parole would be arrested immediately and sent back to prisonClearly that is not true. There were a lot of discrepancies in the crime scene that could be resolved by assuming persons other than Texs team made entries into the house. Livestream from our facebook group discussing strange character Reeve Whitson apparent "friend" of Tate Polanski and Sebring, also apparently associated with Charles Manson and Spahn Ranch. He absolutely did not. That said, in some cases it's understandable.In the case of Bugliosi's book, the errors regarding the Hearst bike delivery times and the Parent/Sharon car registrations aren't ones that I regard as serious. But you frequently mention that he never said anything about a race war, but that he mentioned 'revolution.' That doesn't make any sense. O'Neill's information on Whitson provides strong support for the proposition that military and intelligence agencies were involved in the Tate LaBianca murders, bringing the CIAs Phoenix program of assassination and torture of Vietnamese non-combatants home to America. She'd nod and say she knew, but that Gibby and Voityck thought it was very funny. By studying the case and matching up dates and testimony, it can be seen that the sands of time eventually ran out for Charles Manson which puts the kibosh on those theories that he was being protected by those "higher up" although I'm sure the theorists will say that it was because of them that Charlie's protection ran out.. Parole violations do not have to be convictions, not even crimes.Violating the conditions of your parole can be a myriad of otherwise non criminal actions; if they are spelled out in your parole.IeAssociating with known felons, drug dealers/users, drinking, drug use, possessing firearms, traveling outside a specified geographic limit etc etc etcI think it's fair to say that a career criminal with high recidivism like Manson would have had stringent parole conditions. I read Chaos, but came to a very different conclusion. ONeal's lousy, undocumented conspiracy book?I actually learned it initially from Cielodrive.com. ONeill interviewed Hatami who said that Bugliosi knew Reeve very wellHow would Hatami, who met Bugliosi only a couple of times, and on official business {ID photos, trial} know who Bugliosi knew, well or otherwise ?Hatami also told ONeill that he first heard about the murders from Reeve. He'd been talking to Gregg Jacobson about a race war {known then as "the shit is coming down" but it was very general} since they first met in May of '68. Anybody on parole would be arrested immediately and sent back to prison. He didn't "bring" Hatami. Their successors are illegal domestic NOCs at video game and social media suppliers, and APA handlers. "pg200LAPD Sgt Mike McGann, Tate investigator: "He was heavily involved." That = A BUM! A.F.S., Colonia Dignidad, von Braun, Kissinger, Ruby, and Giancana are some of the major players. Did you come down on your own?A: No, I have been called by his office to come downQ:Who was present when you were shown the photographs?A:Mr. Reeves WitsonQ:And Mr. Bugliosi?A:And Mr. BugliosiQ:And yourselfA:And myselfQ:And no one else?A:No one elsebeauders saidwhere have you been?Oh, just lurking for a while. Can you put up Hursts testimony in order to settle who was right, Sanders or Bugliosi? The Zodiac Killer and the CIA An agent for the Central Intelligence Agency moved into a dairy and cotton farming community of 4500 people situated within the San Joaquin Valley of California.
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