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Ive begun my yearly review of what I did last year; so I can be better this year. Basically we create the setup while standing a few inches too far away from the ball, then slide the clubhead up behind the ball as the feet take a small step forward. Your previous content has been restored. The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. I think it is also harder to keep your arms in front of you. is Pure Gold. Can you give me some advice? I was having problems with a seriously closed clubface in my backswing and at the top. Now I am 45lbs over weight, but plan to start working out after Thanksgiving lol. Yes, the word Fanny can be used in a different context here in Oz but I dont believe anyone would be offended. I assume you mean how high the hands should be at address. Ill also say unfortunately for most amateur players there is no continuing descent, so center still works best anyway as it truly is the bottom of their swing. What would be the best way to know exactly how they should be (for instance If I point my club straight out from my belt buckle to I maintain that exact angle in my wrists?) I have a doubt regarding my stance. Your knees should just crease slightly, no sitting or excessive bending. Your left hand should move down your left pant leg toward your left knee as it works inward. I will report back. Your link has been automatically embedded. Rock Flying Wings Golf Swing for Barrel Chested Guys like Howard 31Oct2014 RockBurke 848 subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 8 years ago Show more Dalton McCrary 8 years ago New Thorbjrn. We teach this on day one to every beginner we encounter, and they dont think this game is so hard to learn. making sure I'm turning my shoulders 90* to my spine. He played at Central Arkansas, where he was a Backer. A stronger grip tends to push the hands farther forward as its the only position that feels comfortable. A centered golf ball, or just slightly left of center technically, gets the ball positioned where the club has a chance to strike it cleanly, and as is the case with the irons, continue to descend. I couldn't resist checking this thread out with the title. Herman, Thank you for this video. The driver is defintely tougher to time everything. At 285 and wearing a 54 long jacket, I struggle with a one plane move. It was all "around." That kind of swing might be good for long drives, but it's probably not the most consistent for every day golf. Now I can identify my own errors and work at them! Because of this new position over the chest I fell my irons should be flatter in order not to bend too much. The best bet is to maintain the natural slight S-curve of the spine that you have when standing looking straight ahead and then bow from hips. Of course, if the clubs feel too long, you will probably be standing straight up with almost no bend at the hips and the toe of the club way up in the air the clubs likely should be shortened if thats the case. Brian Smock has a great swing and has a thick chest. Become a FREE SUBSCRIBER to PETER FINCH now http://bit.ly/SubscribePFGolfBook Lesson With PETER FINCH at Quest Golf herehttps://quest.glflocker.com/BookingSyFeel free to comment below! [/quote] Watching the Stadler video convinces me to go back to my natural, upright motion. Sounds like you suck your arms inside , so they have no where to go . I got down to 215lbs about ten years ago and I looked like I had AIDS, wearing 36" jeans. The clubhead will lower to the ground directly in the center of your stance, butt of club still pointed at belt buckle. All shafts are S2S Stepless Steel Wishon, At 285 and wearing a 54 long jacket, I struggle with a one plane move. Does the grip, stronger or weaker, affect this at all? What should be the distance between my heels (stance wide) for iron 7, fairway wood and Driver? (Im left handed). Just grabbing a club in my living room and getting my left arm out in front of my chest made a huge difference. Assume your address position without a club or ball. Mizuno S18 5310+5812/PX 6.0 I am a short, stocky guy, who - because of a larger chest - can't get his left arm anywhere close to tight/flat against my chest. You should be on the Golf Channel and writing for Golf Digest. I am working on it though. that's pretty big. Your videos have greatly improved my game. Barrel-Chested. I have a question regarding the position of the handle of the golf club. Experienced, low-handicap players usually have this figured out, so its not a big deal. I have a large chest and used to keep my left arm down my left side with the right coming over my chest. Get that left arm up high and across the chest and actually try to maintain a slightly closed appearance with the upper chest and shoulders relative to the feet. The second thing: get fitted for clubs. As you reach the top of your backswing the chest should be facing pretty much straight away from your target. [quote name='sblack5' timestamp='1385096461' post='8188352'] One setup issue a I struggle with is spine tilt. More speed ? There are definitely advantages and disadvantages. Plus you are more connected to the big muscles of trunk. Watch approx 6 videos or so and have learned more than 4hrs of lessons from local pro. Thanks so much for your great instruction.John,former P.G.A, Thanks John. I told Dan my first trip "I want to swing like Smock" lol. This tried and tested method of coaching has helped many golfers achieve their personal goals and beyond Being Gumby isn't all its cracked up to be. As you turn your body and swing the arms in front of your chest, picture your left arm rotating and your wrists setting so the water will leak out gradually on a line between your feet and the ball. Fairways:Honma TW747 15* /18* Look on the bright side: at least you'll never have arm overrun. Hi Herman! My avg driving distance is around 240-250 which is perfectly respectable. That type of rolling for guys that start with their arm on their side promotes open clubfaces, laid off backswings, etc. I meant closed stance in my post. So if you want to fight through to a more conventional swing, your first goal has to be a solid grip and a solid release action. Herman, Herman when I set up like you describe I too press my left hip a little. My left bicep hits my left pec and I physically can't move it any further. Great observation, Jim, and thanks for paying such close attention. (UK). Hogan had great leg drive and fast hips considering his major injuries from the car wreck in 1949. Not restricting the right hip may be another way of adding a touch of height via the body turn. I find your point interesting regarding left hand placement ontop of my female chest. I actually hit the ball farther when I weigh about 225lb., which has been a while. I wish I lived in NC so I could come take some lessons from you! 3) Stronger grip should help, but i dont like a different grip for irons and woods. Slight wrist cock is normal at address. elbow pointed at body/tricep on chest dates all the way back to Ben Hogan in the 50s. That sucks. Cant wait to apply this into my routine so all the other tips and compensations might not be needed. Should I feel relaxed in my wrists with no wrist cock at set up or is it alright to have a little bit. Pasted as rich text. Any swing suggestions? Thanks! Look at BrianL99's post. DGA3, February 3, 2016 in Instruction & Academy. While working on getting my left arm on top of my pec, I was neglecting what I was doing to grip the club with my right hand. The golfer is forced to roll the arms around the body which in turn opens the clubface and sends the club off plane. My chest is thicker than average and after laying my arms over my chest in the set up I have to bend over farther than normal in order to get my arms to hang freely. Display as a link instead, Cause and effect. Since Im left handed that would be my right arm! But it should be said that I spend a lot of time each day stretching. I hit about 500 balls a week but feel I bring a different swing every outing. I had never heard of this setup before and found it promoted a steeper plan for me which is good as I tend to get a little laid off and stuck. 2023 HomeTown Lenders Championship (Korn Ferry Tour) - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Zurich Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 RBC Heritage - Discussion and links to Photos, 2023 Valero Texas Open - Discussion and links to photos, 2023 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play - Discussion and links to photos. Regardless of stance width though the bottom of the swing arc will basically be the center of your stance, so for a ball played on the ground, center is easiest place to catch it solid and not try to time 13 different positions or stance widths. I come from a softball background and always hit opposite field (late swing). Next, well add to the setup by talking about preshot routine. Noticed a few things creeping in that I wanted to get my setup a little more structured. Herman, You will be extending the hands, arms, club in a manner that appears to be going straight back from the ball while the body is making a coordinated pivot all parts moving together. Thanks. Left hand literally underneath the shaft with Palm up. There is NO SPECIFIC PATTERN for broad chested golfers. Im currently an 8-9 but devastatingly inconsistent with my irons. Hi Herman, I tried your suggestion on putting the ball in front no matter what kind of iron I am grabbing. The final step in our setup is to simply march over to the golf ball. Wishon 54, 59 Micro-Groove HM See What Members Are Saying! If not, click, Next, well add to the setup by talking about, Golf Lag: Stop Casting, Lag like Tiger Woods. Herman, One advantage is normally you can generate quite a bit of power with a short swing. The clubhead will lower to the ground directly in the center of your stance, butt of club still pointed at belt buckle. I think it is also harder to keep your arms in front of you. Only you can judge if its worth that. If I keep the right arm, shoulder, elbow soft it all works. Thanks Jean. Watching the Stadler video convinces me to go back to my natural, upright motion. ABC123 Golf Academy Instructor, Lookup member hstead and his progress threadbiggest upper body of any golfer I've seen Just making sure. I am looking forward to the next video and some warmer weather so I can get my clubs checked and re-gripped. Much appreciated. I am not sure what you are asking, but I think you are saying you don't like your backswing. Place an alignment rod under your toes and make some swings. 5 mistakes all golfers make on par 3 holes, Marcus Westerberg Chipping Tips: Stop helping the ball in the air, PGA Tour star reveals what it's like to play with a red-hot Jon Rahm, Equipment brand publicly cuts ties with LIV Golf stars, 'The DP World Tour feeds the PGA Tour it's always been like that', Keith Pelley: 'I have no influence on the Ryder Cup', Keep your feet together to improve your chipping. : What's right for one may not be for another. Maybe there are golfers (on Tour?) It got to the point that I couldnt even find a comfortable or reliable position at address. Set the feet just barely wider than the hips, toes turned out about 5 degrees on each foot, and start to bow from the hip sockets as you also let the wrists drop. Im a width guy (strong guy with a developed chest and strong lats and deltoid although i dont go to the gym. EDIT: PS I'm interested in comments as well since my league partner is kind of similar: he has a very "built" upper body (although a little taller) and has a lot of trouble with how tight his bicep/pec connection is in setup and swing. Herman. I certainly didn't intend it that way, so perhaps I should phrase my problem differently . 2) As you said, simply learn to rotate forearms faster/sooner this is usually the #1 problem. (i.e. The beauty of this exercise is that you can easily throw a ball in the garden so next time you have a spare five minutes go outside pick up a ball and throw it. But it should be said that I spend a lot of time each day stretching. As for the swing, I really just focus on keeping my arms straight to keep the club in front of me, make sure I tilt left going back so my head doesn't move too far to my right, and then coming down I try to get my body rotating fast. XXIO X Series 5 Wood! As for the S&T, I learned a ton from that thread and have spent a lot of time reading it a couple of months ago. [/quote] [/list]. Herman, I love this game and am just so frustrated that I cant get a consistent swing. If your using your shoulders and body to turn and not just your arms the swing is the same. Always need good footwork and posture. Driver: Taylormade M2 10.5* w/ Hzrdus Black 6.0 62g With this build there is also a definite tendency to have a flat shoulder turn in the backswing in an an effort to get your arms up and back. I pretty much have the same width thru the bag and then get just slightly wider for driver. A well-placed golf stance puts your body in a athletic and balanced manner that allows you to turn and keep your balance throughout the golf swing. If not, click Golf Grip How to Grip a Golf Club. So he and co-author and pupil Simon Hawkins pieced together Now for the Back Nine. Brian Smock has a great swing and has a thick chest. So much better to understand what you are doing instead of just being told and not knowing why you do what you do or why things will go wrong. 4) Hip speed will ruin your driver swing until youve had time to master your hands. Herman, I'm barrel chested and not overweight I setup like anyone else and swing the same as everyone I golf with. Otherwise, your on-line tutorials have been very helpful. Thanks a mill. Club fitting is very important but your address and set up is key. People often try to tell me that golf isnt a natural game. Very interesting; my thoracic is trashed and not going to get better, and I've been considering this change myself. A neutral grip makes it all too easy to let arm sit on the side of the chest. I have always wondered what it feels like to swing for a guy that is very flexible and thinner? TEE CBX19 16.5* How To Open Up The Chest Through Impact And Rotate Milo Lines Golf 52K views 1 year ago Mike Malaska: DO NOT "ROTATE" your Lower Body in the golf swing! Ive started thinking of the old glove under the arm pit drill, except this time with the right arm. As for the S&T, I learned a ton from that thread and have spent a lot of time reading it a couple of months ago. For the one-piece takeaway, you can still make a one-piece movement while pivoting. The 3 biggest mistakes you make with your driver. Hey man, your video is awesome!! Regarding setup, your tip that the left arm needs to be on top of the pec makes so much sense. You dont stand there, painstakingly line yourself up, and then start thinking about the angle of your hand and arm as you draw your arm back to throw. I like Smocks swing too. Warning, just doing the stretches will make you sore and realize how out of shape you are if you are like me and haven't worked out in a long time! Good job Kevin and thanks for stopping by to comment. Your observations as a weight lifter are spot on. Again Thanks a lot. Try playing it back to improve the path, although now the face will need to release quickly to make it in time. I told Dan my first trip "I want to swing like Smock" lol. So if you dont trust those, stay centered. You now have both hands on the club, left arm sitting somewhat uncomfortably on top of left chest, left shoulder is higher than the right (which means spine is tilted slightly to the right), right arm is soft at the elbow, right shoulder tucked back and down, club is pointed straight out from belt buckle. Golfers must rotate the arms on the backswing In order to take a full backswing. I've got a large chest and big arms, right now 6'1" about 230lbs but I played football at 275lbs. Hstead that line about being 215 and looking like you had AIDS just killed me. Learn how your comment data is processed. HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. They are also very dependent on impact, and just after impact body positioning, because they can't maintain the angles for long. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAP7cA8kq9U"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAP7cA8kq9U[/url] Centering the hands in my experience has improved most players abilities to align to target, square the face at address and make a reasonably sound takeaway. Try to talk to a good clubfitter if possible. My worry is that l am not hitting the ball as far more so my irons than my driver. Staying centered has been critical for my improvement, it tightens things up in the backswing and allows for a shallower downswing. From the setup position with the clubhead resting on the ground at the center of the stance, simply shuffle over to the ball while maintaining setup posture. Thanks, Literally your hips and legs will not be symmetrically centered on the ball. Today, I wish I lived in NC! Kyle Morris I am 54 years young and have been on & off single figures for the last 10 years but when my swing goes south and i feel like a 40 handicapper I can usually find some pearls, like the one above about the left arm on top of the Left pec. I haven't asked for a refund yet since it isn't really Dans fault. Thank you so much Herman. Ive been trying for years to develop a consistent set up and swing and am every so grateful that Ive been hermanized. As a result my teaching has grown accustomed to exaggerating for effect. He's the model swing I strive for. Maybe that would help me not strike the ball behind me???? What's my problem? You recommend a very pronounced straight back and chin up posture. But it should be said that I spend a lot of time each day stretching. I don't know if this is helpful as I shy away from physical swing advice however being 6'2"/225 with a 49" chest/51 jacket, which is always a PITA as the stuff usually comes in even sizes, however My chest never stopped me from gettin it back-, I was extremely flexible my last year(2012) in the game as I was actively still playing hoops and I was Natiional Ski Patrol-, The only "key" that I ever thought of, and that was decades ago as my body and swing was the same from college on and that is my left tricep across my pec going back-, You might look at some single plane stuff and I've posted a vid of Hal's swing and while he's taller than you, he's got the barrel chest-, I got to Play with him in 2010 and '12 and along with bein a super guy(I started likin him when he scoffed at the Tour boi Tiger love and scoffed at Tiger and beat him when few others could), he's still got a sweet swing-, And he's proud of that belly, tellin me in that Texas draw, "I earned this some b****," lmao, The best to ya and have a great season :), In the end, only three things matter~
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GHIN: Beefeater 24. I do have a touch strong but not real strong took a look in the mirror it appeared too strong because of the left arm hanging or relaxed too much. Told Mrs. DGA3 about my post, and she teased me, saying, "They're going to think you are bragging about yourself!". Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Hope this helps you can always sign-up for an online lesson if you have a way to send me some video. Display as a link instead, Body Turn in Golf Swing - The Golf Fix. Hi Herman, Then as the club is swung down the chest should be pointing again pretty much straight forward. I like Smocks swing too. One more thing to pass on regarding getting yourself in the reverse K at setup. [/quote] I like this video. I haven't asked for a refund yet since it isn't really Dans fault. Eliminate swaying and lunging which rob you of distance and accuracy. Monte has a video on this and has talked about it plenty on this forum. Thanks a million. I'm guessing that if your bicep gets pinned on your chest, then you have no sense of raising your arms as part of your backswing. Both nice looking golf swings, IMO. Herman. [*][size=4][b][color=#0000ff]Ping G410 LST, Mitsubishi Tensei Orange Pro [/color][/b][/size] Lord help me to be the person my dog thinks I am, [quote name='scotee' timestamp='1386387668' post='8261613'] Lofts 18 , 21.5, 25, 29, 33, 37, 41, 45, 49, 53, 58. Some of us have to really work to keep our arms in front of us and stop them when our shoulder turn stops. Any advice would be wonderful. Putter: Odyssey 2 ball XG 40" Armlock w/ winn grip and triple track alignment, Ball: looking for chrome soft replacement. This causes the club to approach the ball on a significantly in-to-out path with a hold-on style of release. Generally barrel-chested guys need to get the arms on top of the chest and then bend over more than average to clear the chest on the swing. Moving it back a little for these short irons may help you if thats the case. I'm a golf fan. I know youre very busy so when you get a chance to answer itll be highly appreciated. Great architecture, it took over 175 years to build, and its now over 800 years old. Sorry there's no video available - maybe in the future. I have been struggling greatly with my game over the last few years. Hey David, glad to hear youve been Hermanized. Net result should leave the butt of club aimed at belt buckle. In Australia it has a very different meaning which would offend many people. TSR2 9 Velocore Blue 6XTSi2 15 Velocore Blue 7X818H2 18 Velocore Blue 9XZX5 MkII 4-5 / ZX7 MkII 6-P Modus 120XWilson Forged Staff 50 Modus 120X, Vokey SM9 54/60Modus 125 Wedge2-Ball 11 CH. Matt Smith Excess knee flex will ruin your motion. It was an aha moment and instant. A good fit should leave the clubhead resting on the ground with the toe of the club just slightly up in the air. Paste as plain text instead, Michael Breed teaches you a drill for a better body turn in your golf swing. I was wondering if you set-up any differently with fairway woods and hybrids? HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. Ball - pro v1x I have to focus more on being able to breathe at the top I feel the left lat stretching so hard lol I hated lifting weights though, but it was a necessary evil back then. GIVEAWAY! Most of them DO NEED to learn to let their arms swing from their shoulder sockets more. Its certainly ok to have the hands slightly in front of the ball at address. Not straight enough basically. If you suspect this problem, literally stick your feet together (ankles touching) and hit a few drives. In a perfect swing, the hips should rotate from the setup position, 45-degrees away from the ball on the backswing. [*][size=4][b][color=#daa520]Callaway MD5 45,49,54,58/[/color] He Played at 225(5'11"), though he would spend most of his LD career at 240-245. I also pivot better if I flare both feet out quite a bit, especially the front foot. Its about finding what works for your body type. Glad to add you to the list of those getting Hermanized. Stay in touch. Groove the rotation you will need to pull your left arm in the downswing. Since I have a very thick chest with this setup for me everything is easier. Wishon 919 THI 11* 0.5* Open If you each out instead of tilting, youll drop the glove. The book is packed with plenty of easy-to-read, simple tips aimed at older golfersthough that doesnt mean younger players cant learn from it! Also upright is super comfortable for me because I have more room but it's not nearly as consistent and I tend to hit a lot more bad shots with hard to control distance because I'm so steep, Titleist TSR3 8* / Fuji Ventus Black TR 6X, Callaway Big Bertha Alpha 18* / Veylix Rome 988X, Edel SMS iron 4-5 / DG TI X100 ///// SMS PRO irons 6-PW / DG TI X100. That sucks. A few things could be going on, so youll need to test one at a time in the following order. 2023 JM Eagle LA Championship (April 27-30), Moi matched my iron set, now living on the heel, Diamana PD 50TX; Diamana TB 80TX; Cleveland RTX6 Zipcore 52/10; Best Grip Microperf Midsize Augusta grips. If the lead arm is sitting on the side of the body, the chest is in the way of starting a proper takeaway and backswing. That sets the ball itself just slightly left of your zipper. Thanks! [/quote] Practice 1-handed forearm rotations with left hand holding the club, then immediately step up and play a shot it might actually hook. I'm with ya and learned a lot from Dan while I was in Jacksonville a few months back. When you throw a ball do you practice the movement? Your email address will not be published. Due to this reason, shaft-length will often be standard or slightly shorter than standard (1-2cm less than std) since the chest is bowed over closer to the ground and lie angle just be standard. Should l try to widen my back swing or do you feel l should play with what l have got? Here's how I recommend you getting the feel of this all-important connection: Put a credit card or golf glove under the left arm at set up. Keep your balance throughout your swing, aiming for the middle of the club face more often. The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. For lie angle you must get checked hitting a shot from a lie board as the dynamics of swinging often look different than the setup positions. Holy crap. Was pumped to work at a professional golf tournament. If it is easy to turn etc.? If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. and it sees you, it is trembling. The only thing I always question now is how my wrists should be at set up. I will report back I would say I am probably more flexible than most guys think, but it depends on the area. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 24, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 17, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 10, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 27, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 20, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here. Boy, that really seems to free me up, am I headed for a wreck? So if you imagine a point in the centre of your chest as the club is taken away and the shoulders begin to rotate. first of all my congratulations because your stuff is really good and has changed my game a lot. I kept being told you have a strong grip. Thanks for the information on the setup. Intro Rotating Your Chest PROPERLY In A Golf Swing Athletic Motion Golf 177K subscribers Subscribe 5.4K Share 303K views 3 years ago Get your FREE distance injection here:. Mizuno MP18 3-Pw/ PX 6.0 In other words train your hands for impact first, and try to get to duck-hooking as soon as possible. When my shoulders turn 90 degrees, my arms can only get to the 9:00 position (looking heads-on, where 6:00 is at the ground and 12:00 is above the head). Your link has been automatically embedded. But, I have found something that that helps me make the coil easier. Much more like my old two-knuckle stance. Michael I cant tell you how much you have changed my game! G425 Max 9*o w/ RIP Beta You can find connection information from Jimmy Ballards work. My basic iron setup tries to align the shaft with the belt buckle picturing the shaft like a T-square with the leading edge of face perfectly square. Also a few good techniques to help square the face. Mike Dunaway played football at Arkansas, I believe, and was rather stocky. It looks like the guys on tour and even your sit up you almost let the club drop or even point your wrist down. Herman. Also make sure your clubs are fitted for you. I'm going to have to get one! Melbourne Australia, Hey Michael. I used to do this all the time but some how you just forget some of these important set up features. I generally recommend setting the feet just slightly wider than the hips so you see a slight flare to the legs like the trunk of a tree, but nothing too excessive. Very strong grip. [*][size=4][b]Titleist T200 5-9 KBS Tour Flt [/b][/size] Your advice has helped quite a bit. Simply picture how the golf ball is in front of your body and the lead arm must also be in front of the body, not on the side. I am now 58 my handicap is 14.6 but lately I have lost a lot of distance and should probably be 18, I was never a massive hitter, probably 230 with the driver from a solid shot but now I am lucky to hit 180, 7 iron 110 all perfectly straight. Im glad I read the comments When corrected, I do play wedge thru 7 about middle stance, 6- 4, slight left of middle and I do have a slight shaft lean toward inner left leg but do not have the inside backswing issue. vornado fan won't turn on,
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